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    Can It Happen Here? In ‘The Plot Against America,’ It Already Did

    There’s a repeating motif in David Simon’s passionate, gutting adaptation of Philip Roth’s 2004 novel “The Plot Against America.” A Jewish boy in early 1940s Newark is sitting in his bedroom when he hears an airplane overhead. Maybe it’s a warplane. Maybe it’s the president. Neither is a comforting thought.The president is Charles Lindbergh (Ben Cole), the famous aviator who, in this alternative past, defeated Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1940 on a platform of antiwar isolationism laced with anti-Semitism, made nice with the Nazis and began a gradual program of persecuting American Jews in the name of assimilation.That airplane motoring overhead is a symbol of what Simon and Ed Burns’s dazzling mini-series so mightily conveys: the ominous approach of history from a vantage where you can hear and see it but can’t touch it. It can only touch you.“Plot,” beginning Monday on HBO, asks the audience to imagine the outlandish idea that the presidency might have been won by a celebrity demagogue new to politics who appeals to bigotry and fear, who ran on the slogan of “America First,” who boasts of having “taken our country back,” who sees fine people on the most reprehensible side of history, who cozies up to despots and behaves as if he were their puppet.Roth, who died in 2018, insisted that he did not intend “Plot” as a political allegory. But history doesn’t always care what you intend.In the 2020 version, Simon draws not a frighteningly different America — as in “The Man in the High Castle” or “The Handmaid’s Tale” — but a chillingly familiar one, both in its echoes of current fears and in its evocation of the past. The opening of “Plot” could be any remembrance of urban life just before World War II. Families gather for dinner, kids chalk up the street to play games, “Begin the Beguine” plays on the radio.Roth created an unsettling intimacy by writing his novel like a memoir, from the point-of-view of 10-year-old Roth — Philip Levin (Azhy Robertson) in the series — as his family suffers from the rise and triumph of Lindberghism: first open bigotry on the street corners, then official singling out from Washington.Simon and Burns trade Roth’s internal perspective for a third-person that captures the sweep of history as experienced by the whole Levin family. Philip’s father, Herman (Morgan Spector), an outspoken F.D.R. Democrat, unwinds by listening to Walter Winchell, the MSNBC of the anti-Lindbergh movement. Philip’s cousin Alvin (Anthony Boyle) is itching to take more direct and physical action.America’s turn to smiley-faced fascism hits home when President Lindbergh establishes Just Folks, a program to foster urban Jewish children with gentile families in the country — deracination disguised as integration — which attracts Philip’s rebellious older brother, Sandy (Caleb Malis). The program, ironically, is the brainchild of Rabbi Lionel Bengelsdorf (John Turturro, with southern-fried smarm), an accommodationist convinced that Lindbergh has made anti-Semitic comments “out of ignorance” but regrets them “privately.”When Lionel begins dating Philip’s rudderless, impressionable aunt Evelyn (Winona Ryder), she clashes with Philip’s mother, Bess (Zoe Kazan), who is both more cautious than her hotheaded husband and less starry-eyed about their chances in a country of emboldened bigots.“Like it or not,” she says, “Lindbergh is teaching us what it means to be Jews.”It’s a frog-in-boiling-water situation, and Simon keeps a steady hand on the burner dial, patiently moving through the stages — denial, anger, desperation — of realizing that you are a stranger in your own country.The six-episode series builds to a fevered, violent climax. But arguably the most disturbing episode follows the Levins on a long-planned vacation to Washington, D.C. What should be a patriotic, educational family trip becomes a pilgrimage to the fallen monuments of a now-dead pluralism, a frightening recon mission into occupied territory. Herman, unable to stifle his disgust at what’s become of the country, is dismissed by pro-Lindy tourists as a “mouthy Jew.”It’s a depressingly believable horror story, an invasion of the body-politic-snatchers. Even Philip’s stamp collection becomes a symbol of what’s been lost: tiny portraits of the wide world and of America’s idealized past brought into one book, as America is slamming the door on that world and renouncing those ideals.“Plot” is a departure for Simon, who has not adapted a work of fiction before, yet it feels natural. Simon is an artist of granular realism, and the lived-in middle-to-working-class Jewish New Jersey he creates gives the series its power.The Levins are a family in full, not just plot-advancement devices, and Kazan and Spector are especially strong anchors. (The depictions of fictionalized historical figures — Lindbergh, Winchell, the anti-Semitic Henry Ford, now treasury secretary — are thinner.)Simon, like Roth, loves a good argument, and the ones here are all too familiar and believable. The accommodationists believe that they can guide the administration away from its worst tendencies. The resisters debate whether simply listening to the radio and getting mad counts as action, or if more active steps are needed.“Plot” is something of a thematic risk for Simon, too. His past work — “The Wire,” “Show Me a Hero,” “The Deuce” — is driven by the belief that individual acts can do only so much in the face of overpowering social systems. That might have made “Plot,” the story of how one man’s run for president might have nudged history off course, an uneasy fit for Simon’s philosophy, as much as it might mesh with his politics.Instead, he’s produced a translation that’s at once fully Rothian and fully Simonian. He hasn’t changed a lot in the story, but where he has, it’s to emphasize that the charismatic bigot in the White House is not simply an aberration who can be erased and forgotten like a bad dream. The problem is as much the passions and cynicism that made him possible: the citizens whose prejudice was validated, the officials who got a taste of thugocracy, the society that learned the norms of decent behavior were always optional, the minorities who found that equality is revocable.That merger of visions makes the difference between a dutiful adaptation of a great novel and a series that is great in itself. There is plenty of pugilistic optimism in this “Plot,” but it’s tough-minded. Maybe the clouds will part. Maybe the next plane to fly overhead will be a friendly one. But you will never feel as safe under that sky again. More

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    ‘Star Trek: Picard’ Season 1, Episode 8 Recap: That Escalated Quickly

    Season 1, Episode 8: ‘Broken Pieces’Man, “Star Trek: Picard” is dark. That is the thought that kept running through my head during this week’s episode. There have been other dark moments throughout the series — but this is the episode when the darkness really stood out. From the start of the episode — when several Romulans stand in a circle, go insane and commit suicide — to Admiral Clancy’s randomly telling Picard to shut up with an unnecessary expletive, I kept thinking that this is a grim world Picard inhabits — and a much different one than the franchise creator, Gene Roddenberry, had in mind decades ago.But we are what is in front of us. And when Soji meets Rios for the first time, he has a moment of confusion and seemingly, panic. We finally get a bit of Rios’s back story and his history with a former captain, Alonzo Vandermeer — a father figure in his life. And filed under “What an Incredible Coincidence”: In a past life, Rios and Vandermeer picked up “a diplomatic mission out of nowhere” with two passengers. Vandermeer eventually murdered these two based on a directive from Starfleet and then killed himself, an incident that Rios covered up.Remarkable, the two ended up being synths. Thank goodness that Rios happened to be hired as the pilot for a synth-related mission for Picard!The uniting characteristic of the La Sirena crew is that all of them withdraw in times of deep discomfort, except, perhaps, for Picard. They are also all fundamentally broken human beings, as the episode’s title suggests. But in this showing, the members make an effort to look after one another: Raffi shows a compassionate side in dealing with Rios’s heartbreak (just as he did with her when she was rejected by her son). Soji is sympathetic toward Jurati, even though Jurati has orders to kill her and previously murdered her father. The crew recognizes that they are kindred spirits, having started off as distrusting strangers.The crew has uncovered a new mystery here that feeds into the current one they are trying to solve: It turns out that the Romulan quest to stop the development of androids actually stretches back hundreds of thousands of years and that they were behind the attack on Mars. Commodore Oh is a deeply embedded plant.I will admit that seeing yet another layer of plot on top of an already complicated plot muddles the central story line for me. And it is a bit difficult for me to believe that Oh would have risen up to near the top of Starfleet given the tensions between the Romulans and the Federation. (I realize that Worf became a Starfleet officer, but still.)But by the end of the episode, Picard and his merry band are in a race to beat the Romulan fleet to the synth planet — so it feels as if this story were finally coming to a head.And yet, even with all the darkness in the episode, Picard gives one of his trademark monologues — this one about optimism — as this chapter comes to a close.“The past is written but the future is left for us to write,” Picard tells Rios, doing his best Natasha Bedingfield impersonation.It’s the kind of dialogue Patrick Stewart really bites into and thank goodness, because otherwise, we were in for a bleak “Iceman Cometh”-type viewing experience. Fundamentally, Picard cannot help who he is: a duty focused, morally bound optimist. He is Roddenberry’s ideal. Borg drones being ejected into space? Not so much.Even with the extra layer of plot, I enjoyed the episode, but I do wonder how many of these threads will be wrapped up by the end of the season.Odds and Ends:I enjoyed the moment when all the Rios holograms hit themselves on the head at once. A lighthearted scene in an episode that sorely needed one.This episode was a lovely showcase for Santiago Cabrera as Rios (and his holograms). He has put together a very versatile performance.The B story line in the episode is the return of Seven of Nine. With Elnor’s help, she somehow reintegrates into the Borg hive mind and retakes the cube — even though Rizzo has thousands of drones sucked into space. Essentially, Seven of Nine grudgingly becomes the Borg Queen for a moment, which seems like a pretty cool experience. She just plugged herself in!Narek! Where are you?! (On a separate note, I continue to wonder what Elnor is supposed to be doing.)My favorite moment in the episode was when Picard described Data’s characteristics to Soji. It was a testament to what Brent Spiner brought to the character and a reminder of why Data is one of the most fascinating characters in all of Trek.Admiral Clancy cursing at Picard and then simultaneously sending a fleet to Deep Space 12 made me laugh. There was no apology from her about not taking Picard seriously. She shows the same contempt for him she did previously. What a strange character.So, Jurati says she is going to turn herself in for the murder of Bruce Maddox. The crew seems to accept readily that she has reformed and is no longer a murderer. Why? Commodore Oh has proved herself to be an effective double agent. Why would Picard and company believe Jurati?It’s kind of amazing that the Federation never showed more skepticism about the Mars attacks. More

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    When the Big Apple’s Culture Meccas Shut Down, They Made Lemonade

    Patty Schlafer flew in late Thursday from Wisconsin, and her sister, Kathy Coughlin, flew up from Atlanta the same night, for a trip of a lifetime that had been a year in the works.Along with Mrs. Coughlin’s daughter, Beth Coughlin-Leonard, 32, who lives in Nashville, the women were meeting in New York City to celebrate Ms. Schlafer’s 60th birthday. They had hatched the plan last spring, and kicked around the idea of coming in February until Mrs. Coughlin — who last visited the city for the World’s Fair in 1965 — protested that it would be far too cold.Pushing the weekend to mid-March didn’t seem like a big deal. They had a fantastic Broadway weekend lined up: “Wicked” on Friday, “Dear Evan Hansen” on Saturday, and on Sunday, for their big finale, “Hadestown.”Then, as the sisters’ cab made its way from La Guardia Airport to their midtown hotel, the bad news arrived via their phones.In the hours since their planes had taken off, New York City had declared a state of emergency because of the coronavirus pandemic. Broadway was shut down. Museums, the Metropolitan Opera, Carnegie Hall were all closing their doors.And thus did Ms. Schlafer, Mrs. Coughlin and Mrs. Coughlin-Leonard find themselves among the untold trail of tourists on dream trips to America’s cultural capital with tickets to canceled shows, winnowed options and little in the way of backup plans. More

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    12 Recent Netflix Originals Worth Streaming While Stuck at Home

    Keeping up with everything new on Netflix these days is practically a full-time job. Just consider the Netflix original TV shows alone: The streaming service’s business model involves producing or distributing more than a dozen entirely new shows each month, in a variety of genres, pitched to wildly diverging audiences. It’s easy for even the most dedicated watchers to fall behind.What follows is a guide to getting to the essential Netflix original series more quickly. From reality series to kids’ shows — and from the Netflix originals everyone’s talking about right now to the ones they should be — this list is meant to help you get more out of your subscription.‘Gentefied’Stream it here.Culturally specific and widely appealing, “Gentefied” tells the vivid, personal story of three cousins helping their grandfather’s restaurant survive the rising rents and changing demographics of a Mexican-American Los Angeles neighborhood. Created by Marvin Lemus and Linda Yvette Chávez, this dramatic comedy features a talented cast, playing characters who banter rapidly in Spanish and English (and Spanglish) about their different ideas for how to keep family tradition alive in a rapidly evolving culture. The real star of this show, though, may be Los Angeles itself, depicted here as a city of unique ethnic enclaves, all in danger of becoming homogenized.[Read the New York Times review.]‘The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez’Stream it here.Somehow, the Netflix programming team keeps finding these absorbing and nuanced true-crime docu-series. Here, director Brian Knappenberger — best-known for the issue-driven documentary features “The Internet’s Own Boy” and “Nobody Speak” — takes the tragic story of an 8-year-old Los Angeles County boy’s death by torture and uses it as a way into a larger critique of the social services system that allowed it to happen. The series covers the final days of Fernandez’s life in often disturbing detail, but it also follows the crusading journalists who helped elevate his case to the level of a scandal.‘Cheer’Stream it here.Reality TV often gets a bad rap — justifiably — for being contrived and sensationalistic, and yet at its best, the genre can be as richly dramatic as a great documentary. The creators of the acclaimed football-focused Netflix series “Last Chance U” bring a similar kind of complex, multicharacter storytelling to the sport of cheerleading in their six-part “Cheer.” Set at a Texas community college, the docu-series builds to a genuinely tense championship competition. But throughout it’s more about the colorful personalities of these kids and coaches, who hope their abilities to leap, lift, climb and tumble will give them a shot at a better life.‘Giri/Haji’Stream it here.Three outstanding performances anchor the cross-cultural cop series “Giri/Haji” (which translates to “Duty/Shame”). Takehiro Hira plays a Tokyo detective under pressure to find his gangster brother, who may be hiding in the London underworld. Kelly Macdonald plays a lonely London detective constable who bonds with the visiting lawman. Will Sharpe is an opinionated half-Japanese, half-British prostitute who either has connections everywhere or is a liar who loves drama. The show features flashy interludes — some of them animated — but it’s mostly a gritty, character-driven procedural about people who feel out of place both at home and abroad.‘The Stranger’Stream it here.The British TV adaptation of the crime novelist Harlan Coben’s 2015 book, “The Stranger,” delivers what his fans expect: a twisty plot about an ordinary person whose life is knocked off-course by a surprise revelation. Richard Armitage plays Adam Price, an upper-middle-class husband and dad who finds out from a mysterious woman that his wife harbors a terrible secret. Adam isn’t the only one to whom this “stranger” shares some hard truths. As this mini-series plays out, the hero allies with others who are trying both to recover from their encounters with this shady lady and to figure out what she really wants.[Read a New York Times interview with Harlan Coben.]‘Medical Police’Stream it here.Some of the brightest comic actors and writers of the past decade reunite for “Medical Police,” a delightfully silly spinoff of the long-running, now defunct Adult Swim series “Childrens Hospital.” In this ten-episode spoof of explosive international thrillers, Erinn Hayes and Rob Huebel play pediatric doctors who are drafted by the government into fighting bioterrorism, while Malin Akerman, Lake Bell, Ken Marino and Rob Corddry fill out the cast. The pandemic plot might strike some viewers as too real right now to be funny, but there’s nothing remotely serious about it. This is a ridiculous parody of ridiculous movies. Like any good doctor, it does no harm.‘I Am Not Okay With This’Stream it here.Netflix and the producer-director Jonathan Entwistle have struck a resonant chord with their adaptations of the graphic novelist Charles Forsman’s books: first with the black comedy “The End of the ____ing World,” and now with this low-key fantasy-drama about a teenager named Sydney, who discovers she may be have telekinesis. Like its predecessor, “I Am Not Okay With This” is primarily about what it feels like to be a misfit teen dealing with surging hormones and restless thoughts. As Sydney, the terrific young actress Sophia Lillis captures the rawness of adolescence, when every fleeting emotion burns like fire.[Read the New York Times review.]‘Locke & Key’Stream it here.Like “The Walking Dead,” the horror-fantasy comic book series “Locke & Key” is a natural for television; its writer, Joe Hill, and its artist, Gabriel Rodriguez, have already broken the story into arcs for their graphic novel collections. Set in an old gothic Massachusetts house, the “Locke & Key” TV show begins by introducing the home’s latest occupants: a family in mourning, which discovers strange keys hidden around its new home. Each key has its own power, which the heroes must figure out how to use in order to ward off the evil forces that are getting closer, episode by episode, to slipping into our world.[Read a New York Times interview with the show’s star.]‘Green Eggs and Ham’Stream it here.Back in 1960, Theodore Geisel, known as Dr. Seuss, needed only 50 words to write his perennially popular picture book “Green Eggs and Ham.” This Netflix animated series uses way more — including Seussian mouthful words like “Chickeraffe,” “Shvizelton” and “Glurfsburg.” Adam Devine voices the book’s breakfast-loving Sam, while Michael Douglas voices a fussy inventor named Guy. Together, they hit the road with the courageous youngster E.B. (Ilana Glazer) on a tricky cross-country quest. With its whimsical design, slick look and self-referential jokes, this “Green Eggs and Ham” is a treat for animation fans and for anyone who devoured Dr. Seuss books as a child.‘Night on Earth’Stream it here.Just when it seemed as if the producers of nature documentaries had photographed every possible animal in every possible way, the team behind “Night on Earth” comes along with special low-light cameras, designed to show what the planet’s diverse population of critters is up to under the stars. Like most modern wildlife-focused docu-series, “Night on Earth” also functions as a lesson, aimed at showing how the delicate ecological balance that sustains all life can too easily be disrupted. But the show mostly offers an opportunity to admire the ghostly images and eerie colors of the natural world, after dark.[Read a New York Times article about the revived popularity of nature shows.]‘The Circle’Stream it here.Equal parts social experiment and reality competition, the international TV franchise “The Circle” has already fascinated and divided audiences in the Britain, the United States and Brazil with its clever integration of social media into an amped-up popularity contest. (Netflix has just released the U.S. and Brazilian versions; a French one is coming soon.) Contestants on “The Circle” live in the same apartment building but interact only through a special app, through which they share details about themselves that are either honest, exaggerated or completely phony. Watching these people wrestle with their consciences — if they do — is entertaining and instructive. It’s remarkable what it takes to make friends in 2020.[Read a New York Times feature about the show.]‘Love Is Blind’Stream it here.Hey, not every TV show needs to be high art. “Love Is Blind” is made for anyone who wants to drink a big glass of wine at the end of the day and enjoy something trashy. In this reality dating show, the participants meet with each other in partitioned rooms, where they share long get-to-know-you conversations without ever seeing each other’s faces or bodies. At the end of the series, couples who choose to get engaged finally see each other and decide whether they want to go through with the wedding. Nick and Vanessa Lachey host the show, which is partly an inquiry into the true value of physical attractiveness and partly a chance to watch potential relationship train wrecks unfold.[Read a New York Times essay about the show.] More

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    Broadway Is Closed, but London’s Theaters Carry On

    LONDON — On Broadway, theater doors are shut. In Milan, the Teatro alla Scala opera house is silent. In Paris, theaters including the storied Comédie-Française announced on Friday they were closing down temporarily, too.Across the United States and across Europe, theaters and other cultural venues have drawn the curtains as authorities try to halt the spread of the coronavirus.But on Friday afternoon, inside the National Theater in London, the show was going on. Dozens of people milled around in the foyer of the concrete building on the south bank of the river Thames, many of them with a drink in hand. They were about to go in and see “The Seven Streams of the River Ota,” Robert Lepage’s seven-hour saga about the repercussions of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima.Tasha Kitcher, 22, said she wasn’t worried about sitting next to a stranger for such a long time. “We’re British,” she said, “so it’s, like, whatever.”Barbara Shep, 65, was a little more concerned. She would ask to move if someone next to her coughed or sneezed, she said. “But I think you’ve got to carry on and just try and be as careful as you can,” she said.“I’m quite glad it’s seven hours,” said Alastair Knights, 30. “I think I’d happily stay in there for double that, if it meant that I wasn’t just looking at my phone going, ‘Argh.’”On Friday, Britain’s approach to containing the coronavirus seemed out of step with other European countries. France, Denmark and Austria, for example, have restricted indoor gatherings to fewer than 100 people. But the government here has not placed any restrictions on events. At a news conference on Thursday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson simply advised anyone showing symptoms of the virus to self-isolate for seven days.Patrick Vallance, the government’s chief scientific adviser, explained the government’s reasoning to BBC radio on Friday. “The most likely place you’re going get an infection from is from a family member, a friend, somebody very close, in a small space,” he said.There were 798 confirmed cases in Britain on Friday morning, although on Thursday, health authorities estimated that between 5,000 and 10,000 people in the country were infected.It’s not just theaters that are open: Most of London’s museums were open Friday, too, including Tate Modern, despite an employee there having tested positive for the coronavirus.Some event organizers in Britain have decided to take their own actions, canceling or postponing tours and festivals. On Friday, the Premier League, Britain’s top soccer competition, announced it was suspending matches. More

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    Love Letter: Life After ‘Love Is Blind’

    [Sign up here to receive Love Letter, a weekly newsletter about relationship highs, lows and woes, in your inbox every Friday.]Netflix’s reality romance show “Love Is Blind” is one of the very few examples of reality TV actually getting it right. We all rooted for Lauren Speed and Cameron Hamilton as we watched them find love, sight unseen, over the course of a 10-day social experiment. The couple, who married in November 2018, broke down the walls for us in an interview. They spoke about why their love is the real deal, surprises after the show, and why Lauren says she might install cameras in their shared bathroom.For some, the end of a relationship, especially a marriage, can feel like a personal failure. In this week’s Modern Love essay, Dave Valdes reflects on the end of his 21-year marriage. As he and his husband embarked on the journey of untangling their tethered relationship, they began to bond over a shared commitment to splitting amicably.With the effects of the global pandemic that is the coronavirus still unknown, now is the time to be extra cautious about your personal hygiene habits, especially around others. But what do you do when the biggest offender is actually your spouse (who can’t seem to keep his fingers out of his mouth or off his face)? We can help.Oh, and don’t forget to wash your hands. Need a tune to help you wash for a full 20 seconds? How about a little help from Whitney?We want to hear from you.We want to deliver content that truly matters to you and your feedback is helpful. Email your thoughts to loveletter@nytimes.com.Also, here’s how to submit a Modern Love essay or how to be featured in an Unhitched column. Don’t feel like writing more than a tweet, an Instagram caption or a Facebook post? Consider submitting to Tiny Love Stories, which are no more than 100 words. Getting married? Here’s how to submit a wedding announcement. More

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    What Are the Stephen Sondheim Songs Close to Your Heart?

    To celebrate Stephen Sondheim’s 90th birthday, we’re pulling out all the stops in the March 15 issue of Arts & Leisure. Jesse Green, one of our co-chief theater critics, makes the case for him as “an artist to place in the line of America’s foundational 20th-century playwrights.” Ben Brantley, our other co-chief theater critic, wrote, “when it comes to emotions, Sondheim — more than any other composer from the Broadway songbook — is the one I trust to tell me the truth.” We want to know: What’s your favorite Stephen Sondheim song and why? In interviews with his more famous admirers, Audra McDonald picked “Move On” from “Sunday in the Park With George,” Julie Andrews chose “Getting Married Today” from “Company,” and Michael Chabon went with “Chrysanthemum Tea” from “Pacific Overtures.”Share your favorite Sondheim song via the form below, and include contact information so The Times can follow up with you. We may publish a selection of the responses.We Want to Hear From YouWhat is your favorite Stephen Sondheim song and why? More

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    Behind the ‘Love Is Blind’ Wall

    It’s hard to win over fans on a romantic reality show. But Lauren Speed and Cameron Hamilton did.Ms. Speed, 34, a content creator, and Mr. Hamilton, 29, an A.I. consultant, met on “Love is Blind.” The premise of the Netflix show is to allow singles to, well, mingle while they sit in pods, talking through walls. The idea is to put up some barriers in an effort to break down the barriers we all face in dating, the foremost being appearances.It doesn’t sound like something that should work. It did. Two couples got married, including Ms. Speed and Mr. Hamilton, who tied the knot in November 2018.But even if love is blind, a reality show is pretty opaque. I called up the couple to hear more about their experience.What were you doing before the show?Lauren: I was pretty much throwing myself into my business. I have a media business — do production work, videography, as well as photography, I’m a content creator. My dating life was pretty sucky if we’re being honest. I was almost ready to give up on being in a relationship or married. I’m in my 30s, my business was going well. But when the opportunity came along for the show, I was intrigued. The concept was so different because it wasn’t based purely on aesthetics. Lo and behold, I lucked out.Did either of you try dating apps? How did you end up on the show?Lauren: I tried the dating app thing one or two times and it freaked me out. I was afraid to find someone and meet up with them and them be a serial killer or something.Cameron: I didn’t have any fear of serial killers. I was going out on a lot of dates but I was cutting them off after the first or second date because I wasn’t finding people who were a good match for me. I was liking the pictures but then I was basically ignoring everything else and so I was basically being shallow in how I was conducting my dating life and was feeling quite lonely as a consequence of that. I was reached out to by a casting agent. I didn’t apply.Lauren: A casting agent slid into my DMs. It’s kind of crazy because I don’t know how she found me on Instagram. I don’t know, I must’ve hashtagged #lonelydating or something. I went through the whole application process, had to do Skype interviews, multiple Skype interviews. Also, they had to do a psych evaluation.That kind of made me feel a little bit more ease about the situation, like at least they’re testing people.What was it like when you first got there?Lauren: It was pretty much like a group mingling, with the women on one side of the wall and the men on the other. We got to know each other, talked about the things that we were looking for. When it was time to go on our dates in the pods, each date was probably about seven minutes long.Cameron: As time went on, the dates got progressively longer. We went on progressively fewer dates overall because you were just kind of focusing in on who you were most interested in. Really from the start, we were dating probably 16 hours a day, multiple dates a day.Did either of you have feelings for other people?Lauren: We did make connections with other people, however it was more from a friendship vibe. Up until close to the end, I went on dates continuously with Mark, Damian, and Carlton but after a certain point, after you connect with someone like Cameron and I connected kind of early on, you just kind of talk about the friendships with these people. Cameron: Up until the end, I was going on dates with Diamond, I think Jess, and Kelly and Giannina. But like Lauren said, it was all very platonic. We would talk about the other person who they were interested in and I talked a lot about Lauren with Jess. She would talk about Barnett and Mark with me. That was just kind of how the dates went. It was all platonic basically but we formed good friendships, so it’s not a waste of time.So let’s get to the point where you said “I love you.” Wasn’t that the first episode?Lauren: I wanted to share that with him. Really, I wanted to see how he would react. You can tell when I said it, I was like, “Ooh, what is he going to say?”But I just threw it out there just to see what would happen and he reciprocated it and I pretty much melted after that. I mean, it was over. It was over.[Sign up for Love Letter and always get the latest in Modern Love, weddings, and relationships in the news by email.]A lot of times, the conversations that we see on reality shows are about the relationship and not really about the specifics of who the people are. What did you guys talk about in the pods?Lauren: We really bonded certainly on our love for our family. We’re both super family-oriented, very close with our parents, with siblings as well as just basically we’re really into the arts, very career focused and goal oriented. We’re both entrepreneurs. We both want to have children in the future.Cameron: Both kind of extroverted introverts. Also, we kind of balance each other out where Lauren’s very upbeat and has this really contagious charisma, I’m more calm, cool, collected type. We balance each other out in that respect and kind of boost each other respectively.Did you know what you would say when you got to the altar and were you able to communicate that with each other beforehand? Or was that a part of the show?Lauren: I was pretty much kind of nervous all the way up until I got to the altar. In the back of my mind, I know that I really wanted to marry Cameron but I was scared. It’s a big deal. Of course I knew that I wanted to continue this relationship with this man. I don’t know if I told him that or not.Cameron: I mean it was hard because I was ready to go and I think she thought maybe it would’ve been nice to have a bit more time. Thankfully, we’ve been married for a year and a half now.Lauren: Yeah, I took the leap just because I didn’t want to stop my own happiness. I would’ve never probably have forgiven myself and thank God that I didn’t.It seemed like some of the other cast members were blindsided. Were you directed to not reveal what your decision was?Lauren: We had the power to do whatever we wanted to. We were free to talk to each other up until the wedding because we had a little break in between the bachelor and bachelorette parties and the wedding.Cameron: Yeah, absolutely no one was forced to do anything at all. We all knew what we signed up for, people could walk away if they wanted to. We could tell each other, “Hey, I’m going to say yes tomorrow,” if we wanted to. There was no restrictions like that or producer involvement.Lauren: The couples could’ve definitely talked to each other and shared what they wanted to do.Cameron: I think a lot of people felt conflicted up until they got up there.Were you surprised that some of the other couples waited until the wedding day to tell their partner that they weren’t going through with it?Lauren: Throughout the process, I kind of had an inkling of who was doing well and who was having serious struggles.You would think that the couples would communicate their plans to each other, that you wouldn’t kind of surprise your partner with that.Race was discussed quite a bit in the show about your journey. What kinds of issues have come up, if any, since you got together?Lauren: If anything, it’s just been a learning curve for the both of us. I was teaching Cameron about our hair and twist outs and braids and all that stuff. But he’s dated black women before so he’s kind of been there. Me, on the other hand, things are kind of more new for me than for him.We haven’t really experienced anything strange in public besides a few stank looks here and there. We live in the South, so a lot of old ideals still resonate with some of the people down there, especially the older people.Lauren, you spoke about things that are specific about black culture. Has anything surprised you about living with a white person?Lauren: Actually, girl, I went to Maine and it was one of the most Caucasian places I’ve ever visited. I don’t know if this is a Caucasian thing or a Maine thing but, what’s it called, babe? Mincemeat pies. OK, Cameron says it’s a Maine thing but I’d never heard of it.I guess it’s like a fruity pie, I don’t know. But as for white culture, not really anything shocking but, I wasn’t shocked by anything because I’ve been around white people, you know?Lauren, has Cameron ever used your toothbrush?Lauren: Not that I know of, girl, but I’m thinking about setting up cameras in the bathroom. After a couple of these press interviews, I’m kind of questioning if he’s sneaking in there or not.Cameron: Only in an emergency.Lauren: Oh god babe, no.I saw that you guys just started your YouTube channel together. Are you trying to monetize this?Lauren: Shoot, I mean, we’ve got a dog to feed.Cameron: Right. Sparks needs food.Continue following our fashion and lifestyle coverage on Facebook (Styles and Modern Love), Twitter (Styles, Fashion and Weddings) and Instagram. More